

Were your parents into music?
My parents were from the Sixties so I definitely grew up listening to Bob Dylan, Cat Stevens, James Taylor. My dad used to surf so I’d listen to the Beach Boys. Of course, Beatles and Rolling Stones are classic. I like chord progressions and melodies, but when you plug into lyrics you take it to another level, especially with hardcore. Most of the songs are about the same topics but some people say it in a cooler way. It brought the scene more into focus and I tried to emulate that approach by making distinction with language.
Give me a little idea of what it was like to reassemble Rival Schools and take it out on the road in 2008 after a long layoff.
To get the ball rolling, we did a tour and got in touch with what it was like to play Rival Schools music and got to hang out with each other and meet the fans again. We were hoping someone was still out there that cared. That was part of the learning curve to get in synch. We realized it’s not enough to just play these people in the crowd the oldies. We needed to put together something creative that could lead to something else.

What about the supposedly scrapped second album that never came to fruition circa 2003?
That was a bunch of demos I didn’t labor over that led to eleven songs. They got leaked to the internet. When we got back together we actually started from those sessions to see what was good and improve them. That was helpful. The main riff and verse of "Shot After Shot" comes from those sessions and I developed some new lyrics. "Big Waves" is the same song and arrangement, but Ian Love plays on this version. Ian can make a guitar sound like anything, even strings.
Was it difficult to improve upon the debut’s intrinsic value?
The daunting challenge was to create something that would do justice to the first album, but also project the future trajectory. The title, Pedals, ties into aspects it took to make this happen. Sometimes we’re pedaling uphill. There’s a lot of movement and organization. We used a lot of affects pedals on the album. Lyrically, it’s not wholly thematic like Tommy, but the mood reflects that trip we navigated. Everyone’s in a different place in their lives than ten years ago. Changes happen and that reflects the feeling of the music. It’s seen from a fresh, dynamic, different point of view.
Explain the motivation behind moving to Berlin, Germany, for a few years before landing in Williamsburg.
I moved there with my girlfriend for fun and adventure. At that time, I got sick of hearing about Bush’s War On Terror and all that shit. It just became a headache with Bush and I wanted a different perspective. I thought it’d be a good time to get out and expand my horizons. I’ve dabbled in political writing, but that’s not my comfort zone. But since moving back, I love it in Williamsburg.
It seems half the United States elite indie rockers reside in Williamsburg nowadays. It’s unbelievable.
Yeah. For some people it’s annoying, but I think it’s interesting. Everyone’s pursuing their creative dream. It’s nice to be in that atmosphere. Everyone’s got their own voice.
I was interested in your thoughts concerning a few album highlights. What was the genesis for "69 Guns"?
It’s meant to conjure up your own story. For example, Aerosmith’s "Walk This Way," when I was a kid I thought it was "Lost In Space." Whenever I heard it I thought of being lost in a flying saucer. In a way, "69 Guns" could be what you want it to mean. To me, it’s a romantic story. But we also had in mind the ‘80s tune by The Alarm, "68 Guns." We figured we’d top ‘em. We got 69 guns, which is sexier than 68. So we win.
The fiery "Eyes Wide Open" seems to be in a similar vein as the debut’s awesome hellbent anthem "Used For Glue."
It had that sort of power. We were just trying to expand on "Used For Glue’s" theme. It’s our most rockingest song. That’s still part of the band.
"Choose Your Adventure" gets an Industrial bass-treated grumble that echoes through the climactic cadenced catchphrase. Was it at all inspired by the Kraut-rock you may’ve heard while living in Berlin?
I think that’s an interesting thought. It’s really just a riff Ian wrote that I thought would be fun to sing over. It’s got a good groove and is exciting and a little bit different. Sometimes you think you’re writing a song about one thing, but you end up writing a song about another thing. That’s an interesting consequence.
Most of your songs connote inner rage, but as I speak to you, I feel you have confidence and contentment.
I guess especially with Quicksand, I got my screaming and pissed off rage out more. In rival Schools, I may not especially scream about it, but I think you could feel the tension of being pissed off or discontent. That’s a good place to find music. Maybe I’m not as much as a malcontent as I may have been. Music’s definitely therapeutic for me. I’m always chopping into what I’m concerned about and what’s bugging me. I have a great outlet for that.
"Small Doses" must be one of those therapeutic communiqués.
For me, it was more about how sometimes you just need a break from everybody else. Like Mike Miur when he’s talking about being off on his own now and he feels OK in "Institutionalized." After all the ranting, he says ‘All I want is a Pepsi.’ I always feel that I could leave songs open for interpretation, though.